I know a couple families dealing with this (everyone probably does.) And I blame the parents because they let the young adults remain at home and don’t force them to become self-supporting. Young men used to aspire to marriage because marriage meant sex. To get married they needed to be employed- it was a big incentive to work. Everyone laughs at that now, except the young women who want marriage and can’t find a willing husband. We are in big trouble.
The problem is that a large minority of these “adults” are choosing not to work or have a career, not to date, not to own many possessions and to not have a family. They want to earn the minimum amount possible to survive and then live life on the internet.
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I obviously can't speak to everybody who's in this situation, but when I decided to become a minimalist (way before it was cool, obviously), it was because I couldn't stand the thought of funding all of the immoral shit that government does with my tax money. At that time, it was war and funding censorship against the people who dared go against the narrative -- these days it's.........war and funding censorship against the people who dared go against the narrative. 😕
I empathize with the young people who see homes and a 'regular' life as out of reach -- their labor and savings is being drastically devalued every day and they know the game is rigged. How much of your energy should be put into making the treadmill spin?
I believe young people worship themselves and reject anything that they perceive as making their lives difficult. And traditions are viewed as restrictive and making peoples lives difficult. Rejection of Traditionalism / traditions has been ongoing since the baby boomers made their break in the 60s. All traditions such as having children, getting married and staying faithful to 1 person, going to church every sunday, hard work, meritocracy, community involvement, family reunions, abortion should be frowned upon, etc are all gone and only clung to by a small minority of us. BUT, some places these traditions remain such as in India and a few pockets in the USA and other areas. Go to church, get married, have children in that order.
I’ve run a small construction company for years so I deal with many young adults that are just out of high school. Some are construction management college students. I hired one about a month ago because he wanted to make some dough during the summer. For the past two weeks he has what they call ghosted the job. This means you disappear, no show no call. But then he calls me and wants to come back. My wife made a comment to not take him back to teach him a lesson. Why do I think this would be rewarding him? Last year a high school graduate spent 5 hours putting up 1 small trim board and still hadn’t finished. I asked him if he was going to finish out the day on the 10inch x 10inch trim board and he said he could do without the attitude. His younger brother worked a few weeks in the summer. He was on the phone so much that’s what I started calling him, phone. I really think we are in serious trouble with this future generation. I do see however with government caused inflation and the price to live independently it can be an overwhelming task. I think in many ways these burdens on the young are intentionally made so they will be dependent on government to survive. Government has created this generation and therefore we are also responsible. J.Goodrich
This problem didn't just start in the last few years. It has been increasing since the seventies. I have witnessed this phenonemum as a contractor who used daily labor supplied by employment firms. The guys would work for a couple - three days and not come back. Talking to them, they were only interested in enough money to "get by." But this whole situation plays into the WEF world model. Own nothing, no car, home, nothing; you vill be happy as Claus says. These people seem ready for the experience of thought control through implantation as proposed by Dr. Harari, and become some sort of robotic entity taken care of by their masters.
On the other side, a more promising one, is the rise of the homeschooling movement, as well as the rise of homesteaders and gardeners. Lines seem to be drawn between those who will survive and those who may not.
This problem is real and molly-coddling is part and parcel, but an ugly aspect is overlooked: failed fledglings see diminishing prospects outside the nest, as well as moral dilemma. They see contemporaries working themselves to the bone for corrupt corporations laying waste to tradition. This should not be an insurmountable barrier, but neither should it be ignored
Pelosi commented some years back during O's admin (paraphrasing) that it will be a great new age when the young find they can dabble in projects they are interested in, try their hand at the different arts and so forth and not have to work for minimum wage.
John Adams said "Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.” there you go, his want has come true!
I know this is international but is regional within the countries? I have very productive kids ages 27-35. They have always been told they are excellent employees, they had jobs early, they pay their bills, work hard, and have all lived on their own since at least 21 if not younger. And this isn't just mine - all their friends are the same, getting or already married, having kids, working and starting businesses. And in my community (in the coastal South) I don't know any families like this. Kids are out fishing by themselves from early teens, boating, working, etc. I'm sure there are some here that I don't know of, obviously, but it's certainly not a noticeable number. I suspect these are kids of the progressive left parents...
Effing right on, you two. Yes, this is the end of culture and society if we can not right this ship.
The radical departure from social norms in my lifetime is staggering, and I am just talking about autonomy, work ethic and an internal sense of integrity and dignity.
Entitlement, once reserved for the spoiled wealthy brat, has become a social contagion, and the ills of our history has become excuses to not participate.
Ingenious. In the way the money made from petro fuels is now actively trying to decarbonate the globe, the cruelty of our history is being used, not to enlighten and develop a better path, but to breed obstinence, entitlement and disassociate, and all this is being done in atmosphere of infantilization of the public, social trauma like plaques and wars and scary domestic terrorists, and uprooting the very basis of our human foundation and biology through indoctrination children into queer philosophy.
And the parents are all too in their camp, too tolerant and too uneducated and uniformed to understand what they are participating in also, their humanity evaporated in the distilling process that leaves behind only little cubes of tolerance, obedience, and virtue signaling.
No hero will rise from these ashes. There will be kids in the future who were raised on male "breast milk". Let that sink in.
Interesting post. As mom to two young adults, I see much of what you describe but, fortunately, not in my own kids. Both are struggling to find real, meaningful work that they trained for. My son, a December graduate in computer systems from a very good public institution, cannot find a position in his field. After 4 months being strung along for his dream job at a three-letter-agency, he got the 'no, position filled'; this was his only bite out of dozens of applications. But he can't stand not working, so he is training to be a Prime delivery person. Not his ideal, but he wants to make money. My youngest, chronically ill for the past decade from tick-diseases, is a full-time college student who works 24-36 hours/week in a large day care.
Both kids strive to be independent, but to do so need experience and expertise in their chosen careers. It's hard out there to find full-time work with benefits, and harder still to find meaningful work. Sure, there are a lot of entitled young folks out there--I am a member of one of the most entitled cohorts ever--but the environment for work is not friendly, especially if you wish to not work for corrupt corporations. Have compassion for those kids who are trying. Peace...
All people need to recognize three things that are destroying us-
1) Online Pornography- horrible idea in the first place, creates a market for child sex trafficking, prostitution, and cartels, destroys the human soul and self esteem and is highly addictive to men and boys.
2) Video games, the internet itself along with social media are all also very addictive and damaging, especially to children.
It needs to be severely limited like white sugar!
3) Giving up teaching morality, honesty, compassion, courage, wonder and love for Creation through whatever means possible, the Classics, religion, spirituality, Mother Nature, has destroyed our children. We need meaning in our lives, challenges we can meet, social interactions and genuine love and support to grow up.
4) the mechanistic, selfish, consumer oriented, "necessarily violent," and random universe concepts of reality are all nonsense and soul killing.
We are witnessing the results of World Wars and the War Cultures defending their Nihilism.
Kids and adults all need meaning and higher things to value and strive for.
Destructive Governments coupled with Sociopathic Corporations have contaminated our world, physically, psychically, and spiritually. That does need healing.
And we must search for meaning once again to the Eternal Questions, and help our "lost kids" find their way there as well.
I suggest for the intellectuals among us the the book "Consciousness Beyond Life," by Dr. Pim von Lommel.
Near death experiences and and full blown "awakenings" are rapidly increasing. More and more people recognize that we are not just "machines" but beings with souls and a purpose, outside of the standard religious teaching environment.
All of Creation is Conscious. That's the answer to the mystery and machines won't get you there like your own innate capacities will. Or Life Itself.
So despite our idiocy with our technology, (think endless war, bio-weapons, 5G, EMR, and nuclear contamination,) there is still a lot of hope for humanity.
We just need to do much better by our kids- and FYI, not injecting them with a shitload of genetic and neuro toxic substances from birth would be one good place to start!
Yes, our children received trophies without any efforts and never learned how to accept or deal with being uncomfortable or accepting everyone has different gifts and abilities. Adversity and dealing with life which is unfair is what builds character muscles but parents intervene at the first tear and rob kids of learning how to navigate difficulties. Reminds me of Kipling’s “IF” which is applicable to young men and women https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46473/if---
This is horrible; I didn’t realize it was so widespread internationally.
I see this more with progressive and liberal families in our suburban area. We live in a pretty wealthy area, and at one point, there were four families ON OUR STREET who had college educated, capable kids in their mid to late 20s living in their basements.
My own kids are in elementary, middle & graduating high school next year.
Thus far, they have had jobs as soon as they are able (13-14), are eager to drive the moment they are legal (unlike some of their peers !?!?), & say they want families one day. 🙏
My husband and I are trying our best not to coddle them by ensuring that they do their fair share of chores, by withholding mobile phones (& social media drivel) until they are in their middle teens, and actively engaging them in conversations about the controversial topics to which they exposed. We want to be sure to dialog about the other sides of the issues that they are not likely to hear at school regarding “climate change “, gender craziness, woke culture, etc.
Perhaps, most importantly, we are cognizant to show them how much we enjoy our life because we want them to consider something similar.
I want them to see how delightful it can be to be married to one person for a long time, hopefully have children, establish and cultivate a warm home environment, work hard, and enjoy each other and our community.
I know a couple families dealing with this (everyone probably does.) And I blame the parents because they let the young adults remain at home and don’t force them to become self-supporting. Young men used to aspire to marriage because marriage meant sex. To get married they needed to be employed- it was a big incentive to work. Everyone laughs at that now, except the young women who want marriage and can’t find a willing husband. We are in big trouble.
The problem is that a large minority of these “adults” are choosing not to work or have a career, not to date, not to own many possessions and to not have a family. They want to earn the minimum amount possible to survive and then live life on the internet.
---------------
I obviously can't speak to everybody who's in this situation, but when I decided to become a minimalist (way before it was cool, obviously), it was because I couldn't stand the thought of funding all of the immoral shit that government does with my tax money. At that time, it was war and funding censorship against the people who dared go against the narrative -- these days it's.........war and funding censorship against the people who dared go against the narrative. 😕
I empathize with the young people who see homes and a 'regular' life as out of reach -- their labor and savings is being drastically devalued every day and they know the game is rigged. How much of your energy should be put into making the treadmill spin?
I believe young people worship themselves and reject anything that they perceive as making their lives difficult. And traditions are viewed as restrictive and making peoples lives difficult. Rejection of Traditionalism / traditions has been ongoing since the baby boomers made their break in the 60s. All traditions such as having children, getting married and staying faithful to 1 person, going to church every sunday, hard work, meritocracy, community involvement, family reunions, abortion should be frowned upon, etc are all gone and only clung to by a small minority of us. BUT, some places these traditions remain such as in India and a few pockets in the USA and other areas. Go to church, get married, have children in that order.
I’ve run a small construction company for years so I deal with many young adults that are just out of high school. Some are construction management college students. I hired one about a month ago because he wanted to make some dough during the summer. For the past two weeks he has what they call ghosted the job. This means you disappear, no show no call. But then he calls me and wants to come back. My wife made a comment to not take him back to teach him a lesson. Why do I think this would be rewarding him? Last year a high school graduate spent 5 hours putting up 1 small trim board and still hadn’t finished. I asked him if he was going to finish out the day on the 10inch x 10inch trim board and he said he could do without the attitude. His younger brother worked a few weeks in the summer. He was on the phone so much that’s what I started calling him, phone. I really think we are in serious trouble with this future generation. I do see however with government caused inflation and the price to live independently it can be an overwhelming task. I think in many ways these burdens on the young are intentionally made so they will be dependent on government to survive. Government has created this generation and therefore we are also responsible. J.Goodrich
This problem didn't just start in the last few years. It has been increasing since the seventies. I have witnessed this phenonemum as a contractor who used daily labor supplied by employment firms. The guys would work for a couple - three days and not come back. Talking to them, they were only interested in enough money to "get by." But this whole situation plays into the WEF world model. Own nothing, no car, home, nothing; you vill be happy as Claus says. These people seem ready for the experience of thought control through implantation as proposed by Dr. Harari, and become some sort of robotic entity taken care of by their masters.
On the other side, a more promising one, is the rise of the homeschooling movement, as well as the rise of homesteaders and gardeners. Lines seem to be drawn between those who will survive and those who may not.
This problem is real and molly-coddling is part and parcel, but an ugly aspect is overlooked: failed fledglings see diminishing prospects outside the nest, as well as moral dilemma. They see contemporaries working themselves to the bone for corrupt corporations laying waste to tradition. This should not be an insurmountable barrier, but neither should it be ignored
Pelosi commented some years back during O's admin (paraphrasing) that it will be a great new age when the young find they can dabble in projects they are interested in, try their hand at the different arts and so forth and not have to work for minimum wage.
John Adams said "Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.” there you go, his want has come true!
I know this is international but is regional within the countries? I have very productive kids ages 27-35. They have always been told they are excellent employees, they had jobs early, they pay their bills, work hard, and have all lived on their own since at least 21 if not younger. And this isn't just mine - all their friends are the same, getting or already married, having kids, working and starting businesses. And in my community (in the coastal South) I don't know any families like this. Kids are out fishing by themselves from early teens, boating, working, etc. I'm sure there are some here that I don't know of, obviously, but it's certainly not a noticeable number. I suspect these are kids of the progressive left parents...
Effing right on, you two. Yes, this is the end of culture and society if we can not right this ship.
The radical departure from social norms in my lifetime is staggering, and I am just talking about autonomy, work ethic and an internal sense of integrity and dignity.
Entitlement, once reserved for the spoiled wealthy brat, has become a social contagion, and the ills of our history has become excuses to not participate.
Ingenious. In the way the money made from petro fuels is now actively trying to decarbonate the globe, the cruelty of our history is being used, not to enlighten and develop a better path, but to breed obstinence, entitlement and disassociate, and all this is being done in atmosphere of infantilization of the public, social trauma like plaques and wars and scary domestic terrorists, and uprooting the very basis of our human foundation and biology through indoctrination children into queer philosophy.
And the parents are all too in their camp, too tolerant and too uneducated and uniformed to understand what they are participating in also, their humanity evaporated in the distilling process that leaves behind only little cubes of tolerance, obedience, and virtue signaling.
No hero will rise from these ashes. There will be kids in the future who were raised on male "breast milk". Let that sink in.
Interesting post. As mom to two young adults, I see much of what you describe but, fortunately, not in my own kids. Both are struggling to find real, meaningful work that they trained for. My son, a December graduate in computer systems from a very good public institution, cannot find a position in his field. After 4 months being strung along for his dream job at a three-letter-agency, he got the 'no, position filled'; this was his only bite out of dozens of applications. But he can't stand not working, so he is training to be a Prime delivery person. Not his ideal, but he wants to make money. My youngest, chronically ill for the past decade from tick-diseases, is a full-time college student who works 24-36 hours/week in a large day care.
Both kids strive to be independent, but to do so need experience and expertise in their chosen careers. It's hard out there to find full-time work with benefits, and harder still to find meaningful work. Sure, there are a lot of entitled young folks out there--I am a member of one of the most entitled cohorts ever--but the environment for work is not friendly, especially if you wish to not work for corrupt corporations. Have compassion for those kids who are trying. Peace...
All people need to recognize three things that are destroying us-
1) Online Pornography- horrible idea in the first place, creates a market for child sex trafficking, prostitution, and cartels, destroys the human soul and self esteem and is highly addictive to men and boys.
2) Video games, the internet itself along with social media are all also very addictive and damaging, especially to children.
It needs to be severely limited like white sugar!
3) Giving up teaching morality, honesty, compassion, courage, wonder and love for Creation through whatever means possible, the Classics, religion, spirituality, Mother Nature, has destroyed our children. We need meaning in our lives, challenges we can meet, social interactions and genuine love and support to grow up.
4) the mechanistic, selfish, consumer oriented, "necessarily violent," and random universe concepts of reality are all nonsense and soul killing.
We are witnessing the results of World Wars and the War Cultures defending their Nihilism.
Kids and adults all need meaning and higher things to value and strive for.
Destructive Governments coupled with Sociopathic Corporations have contaminated our world, physically, psychically, and spiritually. That does need healing.
And we must search for meaning once again to the Eternal Questions, and help our "lost kids" find their way there as well.
I suggest for the intellectuals among us the the book "Consciousness Beyond Life," by Dr. Pim von Lommel.
Near death experiences and and full blown "awakenings" are rapidly increasing. More and more people recognize that we are not just "machines" but beings with souls and a purpose, outside of the standard religious teaching environment.
All of Creation is Conscious. That's the answer to the mystery and machines won't get you there like your own innate capacities will. Or Life Itself.
So despite our idiocy with our technology, (think endless war, bio-weapons, 5G, EMR, and nuclear contamination,) there is still a lot of hope for humanity.
We just need to do much better by our kids- and FYI, not injecting them with a shitload of genetic and neuro toxic substances from birth would be one good place to start!
: ))
So spot on Dr Malone. I knew this was happening here. Was not aware it’s the same problem in different countries.
Yes, our children received trophies without any efforts and never learned how to accept or deal with being uncomfortable or accepting everyone has different gifts and abilities. Adversity and dealing with life which is unfair is what builds character muscles but parents intervene at the first tear and rob kids of learning how to navigate difficulties. Reminds me of Kipling’s “IF” which is applicable to young men and women https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46473/if---
**shudder**
This is horrible; I didn’t realize it was so widespread internationally.
I see this more with progressive and liberal families in our suburban area. We live in a pretty wealthy area, and at one point, there were four families ON OUR STREET who had college educated, capable kids in their mid to late 20s living in their basements.
My own kids are in elementary, middle & graduating high school next year.
Thus far, they have had jobs as soon as they are able (13-14), are eager to drive the moment they are legal (unlike some of their peers !?!?), & say they want families one day. 🙏
My husband and I are trying our best not to coddle them by ensuring that they do their fair share of chores, by withholding mobile phones (& social media drivel) until they are in their middle teens, and actively engaging them in conversations about the controversial topics to which they exposed. We want to be sure to dialog about the other sides of the issues that they are not likely to hear at school regarding “climate change “, gender craziness, woke culture, etc.
Perhaps, most importantly, we are cognizant to show them how much we enjoy our life because we want them to consider something similar.
I want them to see how delightful it can be to be married to one person for a long time, hopefully have children, establish and cultivate a warm home environment, work hard, and enjoy each other and our community.
*standing ovation*
Well, well said!